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A Sparrow 1469
08-12-2001 12:21 AM
Party Bob just isn't attracted to women. But that's not the issue. He's not who he says he is; namely, one who is devoid of lust or desire and one who would never harm anyone or do anything for a self-serving reason. He is a hypocrite and a liar and his actions harm the people who have put their trust in him. That's what matters; not the fact that he prefers to have sex with other males.
I believe that on some level Party Bob is afraid of women. He's also jealous of them, as he knows that the majority of the guys whom he wants for himself prefer females.
Balaraman Suresh 1468
08-12-2001 12:02 AM
Dear A Sparrow : "I know of one very prominent vegetarian who loves to molest young boys",- Parthi Baba,who seems to be acheiving name and fame through his notorious and obnoxious activities.Maybe i have to tell him that he needs to get married like Lord Shiva to a lady like Goddess Parvathi otherwise Parthi Baba ends up lusting after male devoteess(sic),whatever is wrong with those beautiful women devotees in Parthi Baba's eye's?
A Sparrow 1467
08-11-2001 11:52 PM
Reaper ... What on earth makes you think that vegetarianism/nonvegetarianism has anything to do with the expose? In my days as a devotee I knew many devotees who ate meat, and I know many non-devotees who do not eat meat. I've also known more than a few vegetarians (as well as some meat eaters) whose brains have gone south and never returned. I know a vegetarian who's an alcoholic, I've known some who were serious drug abusers, and I know of one very prominent vegetarian who loves to molest young boys. It seems that this constant babbling about the meat industry is just a diversionary tactic.
Balaraman Suresh 1464
08-11-2001 11:31 PM
Dear Said Shagol,Have you made a video copy of the telecast in South American Tv station.If you have made one,i would like to see it and if necesary will re-imburse the cost for the Video.Of course i am taking my liberty with you in asking for the video.Thanks.
08-11-2001 09:28 PM
The link to SaiCritic has been left in post #1452. Otherwise we don't need to know about claims that TV stations are linked to the meat industry.
Terrie 1460
08-11-2001 09:18 PM
Edited by author 08-11-2001 09:22 PM
Thank you, Suresh, for the link.
Let's hope that the USA gets smart and picks up on the expose programs and articles from around the world.
Balaraman Suresh 1459
08-11-2001 09:04 PM
Dear Terrie, As you expressed interest in Hindu way of life,please click on this link for latest Hindu Events,Articles etc http://www.hindunet.org
Balaraman Suresh 1458
08-11-2001 08:51 PM
In my opinion,Howard Murphet,Hislop,Sandweiss were truly instrumental in propagating Parthi Baba to a large extent in the west.In fact the Victim's ought to contemplate either individually or jointly to publish a BOOK about the Misdeeds and Un-natural acts of Parthi Baba.Probably they could get connected with Tal Brooke,for he has already written a book and might help the Victims in setting up the contacts required.I only wish i could see the TV show that was telecasted in Argentina and pray as to When Enterprising American's are going to take the lead here in the USA to telecast in Television Station's.
milliefan 1452
08-11-2001 08:05 PM
http://www.geocities.com/the_sai_critic/Millie.html Millie Phillips responds to Faye Bailey
Infoexbaba 1451
08-11-2001 06:28 AM
Hi to you all
You may read the news from Alejandro on http://www.exbaba.com as well, just click on News...
There are some complementary messages before...
Bye ! Reinier
Sunrise 1450
08-11-2001 02:13 AM
Edited by author 08-11-2001 02:25 AM
Thanks for the astrology lesson, Sparrow...
QT Messages are on Sunrise now through #687.
BREAKING NEWS!! Both molestation victims and Sai Org officers were featured on a Latin Ameican TV Program on August 5. Part 2 will air August 12. Conny Larsson, Said K. and Sharon Purcell were interviewed for the show. The ratings were the highest the program had ever seen: http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise. Click on BREAKING NEWS or NEW!!
A Sparrow 1449
08-11-2001 01:19 AM
A prominent Rahu, unless other factors counterindicate, often points to someone who will break all the rules that others are expected to follow in order to get what they want.
A Sparrow 1448
08-11-2001 01:17 AM
Interestingly, raju (change the j to an h and it spells rahu) has a very prominent Rahu in his birth horoscope IF indeed he was born on Nov 23, 1926.
It formed a close conjunction to the Moon on that day. Rahu conjoined with the Sun or the Moon often shows up in the charts of cult leaders. It tends toward compulsivity and hunger for power. Of course for it to be really bad other factors have to be present, but of and by itself it is not an auspicious indication.
08-11-2001 12:00 AM
To answer your question (poster #1446), posts that contain terms like "sleazy racist" are not acceptable on this board.
08-10-2001 10:29 PM
It's interesting that ssb devotees who post insulting and scornful messages never use their real names. They use an alias like "Rahu," the Demon god or "reality check." Rahu symbolizes darkness. He masqueraded as a God of Light in order to try to get a place among the Divine Beings.
"Rahu," you chose your name well. For that's exactly what your guru is doing....masquerading as a god, trying to fool one and all. But "reality" is catching up with him. News is out on the South American TV program which featured victims of ssb, among them Conny Larsson. Now the victims are on video for all to see. Watch the Internet for more news.
Terrie 1442
08-10-2001 07:49 PM
I thought these words from Kyra Kitts on the Yahoo SS Discussion board were very interesting. She describes her experiences with various well-known ssb devotees:
Message 2526
"...loveandjyothi, this seemingly deliberate obtuseness by people who should know better saddens me too. I ran into confronting it directly with no success as follows.
"Besides the fellow I mentioned who'd been sexually molested by sb and had his life ruined, I also knew directly of another handsome young man, a Chilean, who sb unsuccessfully tried to molest.
"Disgusted, I phoned, in turn, Joy Thomas (when she was still living in Southern California), Phyllis Krystal, and Wilma Bronkey. I was as polite and tactful as I knew how to be, asked each of these women if they were aware of the molestations, and if so, what they thought of the issue.
"Joy Thomas was a lovely person to speak with. It was clear that she believed from her heart that sb was innocent of any wrongdoing and gave me the old "he's your mirror" story. I couldn't take offense, though. She was sincere and kind, and only meant well.
"Phyllis Krystal was equally gracious. A truly classy lady. She said that she'd heard of the "rumors" but honestly didn't know what to make of them. I was left impressed with her gentility and truthfulness. From what I've read recently I nw gather that she did try to ask sb about the molestation issue, so I can only credit her.
"Wilma Bronkey, on the other hand, began yelling at me over the phone in fury. Pure devotee dogma and rage. I slipped into reactivity at that point and mentioned that she might consider removing her cranium from shadier climes, so to speak, and hung up on her.
"I called her back later to apologize for my language but that the issue of sb's sexual depravity was too serious to be ignored.
"I was answered with "I'm used to hearing from people like you and I've learned to ignore you all." Then she hung up on me. It left me wondering just how many people "you all" refered to...
"I tried calling Sam Sandweiss, and his wife very politely told me that he was in India.
"At that point I just let the issue drop and worked on my own inner healing..."
The above is an excerpt from the middle of Kyra's message.
Sunrise 1436
08-09-2001 10:51 PM
We see that one more dirty abusive note has just been deleted, obviously posted by someone who belongs in a mental institution. This is meant honestly and without sarcasm.
Sunrise posted 7 new entries today: Kyra Kitts words of encouragement and love on the HOPE page.
Messages 527-602 from this board on DISCUSSION.
Two new very interesting notes on sb's plagiarism on the TEACHINGS page.
Three new letters and critiques on the DEVOTEES SPEAK page. This page has been expanded to include critiques and conversations between devotees and ex-devotees. The new postings are from Ella Evers and Timothy Conway.
Anthony 1430
08-09-2001 03:04 AM
Steelmouse
In answer to your now non existent critisism. The point is, does your communication serve any useful purpose whatsoever? The answer is no. The subject you referred
to has been adequately answered. A better question would be for you to examine the 'false visions of truth' pouring out of your false God!
Terrie 1427
08-09-2001 12:30 AM
Ah, TIME....the most precious of commodities....the valuable sands of time that Parti baba wasted for so many of us. Good luck, Hari, in finding the time to work on the site.
Hari Sampath 1426
08-08-2001 11:50 PM
Edited by author 08-08-2001 11:51 PM
Ref 1425
Sunrise,
Yes we have been wanting to put a counter that reflects real page views, for quite sometime now. Unfortunately ,both Afshin and I have been very busy to attend to this, but very soon this will be done. In fact , we have been wanting to upload a few pages and add some content on some sections, but never got the time to do it.
Before this weekend, many additions and modifications would be done. Thanks to everyone for your kind comments and useful suggestions.
Hari Sampath
Sunrise 1425
08-08-2001 08:24 PM
Edited by author 08-08-2001 08:27 PM
We've just been over at sathyasaivictims.com and put a few more points on the counter, since we returned several times to the main page. Hari, you and Afshin need to make a single index page separate from Links that adds only one point each time a person visits your site.
Wouldn't you like to have an accurate count of how many visits you have each day, instead of each person putting several points on the counter whenever they visit? It takes some real dexterity, avoiding the main page after logging on.
Anyhow, it's still a great site.
Sunrise 1424
08-08-2001 08:08 PM
Edited by author 08-08-2001 08:12 PM
Back posts from this board through #526 are now archived on Sunrise on the DISCUSSION page. Anthony we're sorry about the delay. We're missing one of our computers, which slows us down. When you send us these messages, the right size file seems to be about 75 messages in an e-mail.
A few long pro-sai posts have been deleted, so there are some missing numbers in the message files.
It's probably time for another 500 or so messages to be archived?
It's been quiet here lately, hasn't it? It's always quiet before the storm....Funny how communication goes in cycles.
Anthony 1423
08-08-2001 04:04 PM
Hi everyone
Just to let you know that the posts on this board are normally copied daily and safely stored.
Anthony 1420
08-08-2001 05:41 AM
Bliss
Because swearing and rubbish has no place on a board that is genuinely trying to alert devotees to the truth about their guru. Then people can make up their own mind.
putaipandit 1419
08-08-2001 02:41 AM
to hariafshin- abe lincon still has a nice hat. putaipan.
Bliss 1418
08-08-2001 02:15 AM
Why all this censorship?
Hari Sampath 1417
08-08-2001 01:19 AM
Terrie and all others,
The yahoo club sathyasaibabadiscussion club is owned by Afshin. He moderates it and I really have nothing to do with that part of the board ( of course Afshin and I work on everything together, and I do have a say on most things on that board).
The sathyasaivictims website is owned by me, but as I had mentioned before, I have asked Afshin to take care of it for me due to lack of time for me.
I know that Afshin has been moderating the yahoo club most diligently for a long time, but probably he hasn't taken a look at it today. I am sure he will get rid of the offending posts soon.
I shall also let him know.
Thanks,
Hari Sampath
Terrie 1416
08-08-2001 12:39 AM
Edited by author 08-08-2001 01:15 AM
A thank you to you, Anthony for having a monitored board. Kyra, myself and others are being royally spammed on the two Yahoo boards, one of which is Hari's. Hari, can you delete the spams on your board? Or do you think there's a good reason to leave some of them? It takes a lot of time and monitoring to keep up with the spammers, and I know you're generally very busy.
Sometime today a spam by "xyz" (which insulted Kyra) was deleted from this board. I saw the exact same spam posted by "Prema1008" on the Yahoo board.
A big "thank you" to Marswalker108 for defending me on Yahoo. Of course, the pro sai spammers then go after Marswalker himself. Why are the pro-sais so angry and bitter? Surely their god can take care of himself.
Balaraman Suresh 1415
08-08-2001 12:02 AM
Parti Baba style scamming being done here in the USA.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/610657.asp?bt=prgy#BODY
Sunrise 1414
08-07-2001 11:01 PM
Sunrise has a new Kundalini section on the TEACHINGS page. There's Hari Sampath's quotes of what SB says about Kundalini to Hislop (formerly on the Breaking News page), Dave Brandt's letter on Kundalini (formerly on the Ex-Devotees Speak page) and Marswalker's quotes from Yogananda on Kundalini from QT with a few additions: For those especially interested in the sai org's claims that SB is raising the kundalini of the young men he molests.
On the lighter side, there's a new devotee (and ex-devotee) experience by Bettina Woolard. Click on HOPE FOR EX-DEVOTEES.
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise
Balaraman Suresh 1412
08-07-2001 05:28 PM
The Victims of Parti Baba should get motivated to fight like these people who were also victims of molestations by the church's priest.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/07/national/08CHURCH.html
Sunrise 1411
08-07-2001 01:39 PM
>From the SS Discussion Club, Kyra Kitts and the other ladies are now archived on http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise Click on DISCUSSION from the Links page. This is the most intriguing discussion we've seen in a long time. sb can'd hide from the ladies.
Anthony 1409
08-07-2001 02:15 AM
Terrie
Thanks for the explanation.
Suresh
That is fine. Your contributions are greatly accepted. Sometimes I am in a rush and don't have time to work things out too much. I have never minded that as I believe the same applies to new people reading the posts. They don't always spend time at it, so need to see clearly what the board represents and will stay if they can read clear, interesting, informative information on the exact subject.
So to everyone - let us give clear, interesting (to people looking for the truth of 'sb')informative information.
No attacking or promoting other cults or religions please- except where this specifically relates to something pertinent about 'sb'.
Terrie 1408
08-06-2001 10:11 PM
For the ladies, and maybe a few men too: There's a very interesting discussion going on at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/sathyasaibabadiscussionclub
Check it out and join in!
Terrie 1407
08-06-2001 08:37 PM
Suresh, maybe this isn't the place to post your web site address, but I found your words on Hinduism very helpful. I copied them to a file to print out and save. Hinduism is a lot easier for me to understand as you explained it in simple, easy-to-read terms. I've tried to read books on Hinduism, but they get boring after a few pages. I can't seem to hold much in memory anymore, so the shorter a description is, the better!
Balaraman Suresh 1404
08-06-2001 05:27 PM
Thanks Terrie,you have conveyed correctly what i wanted to convey,thru your interpretations.
Terrie 1403
08-06-2001 05:11 PM
Edited by author 08-06-2001 05:19 PM
Anthony, I think the key to Suresh's post #1398 is: "I know that SAI is God himself....I meditate on this great form."
Showing, in other words, that sb (or the sai org) actually has devotees chant to sb as the great living ONLY "god."
If we missed the small word "sai" amidst all those other words, we missed the point of the post. I had to read it a couple of times to "get it." Nevertheless, I wasn't comfortable reading the chant to lord "sb."
Having devotees sing chants to "lord sai (god)" in a language they don't know could be called subtle brainwashing.
Balaraman Suresh 1402
08-06-2001 03:25 PM
Dear Anthony,All i was trying to do was to expose Parti Baba as a cult leader who expects his followers to idolise him,as for the link to my site,i understand now it looks in bad taste.Please delete it.In fact i owe it to Marswalker's continuous posts about Yoganandaji which kinda gave me a sort of one more model to work on to bust Parti Baba.You are at liberty to do whatever you want with my posts and i wil not be offended one bit.Thanks all the same,for the advice!
MarsWalker108 1401
08-06-2001 02:47 PM
Dear Questor,
The sturdy group that I attended continuously every week for 15 years except for vacations is located in Texas. The leaders of the Sai centers set the tone it seems.
Regarding the quote on forgiveness it is from the Mahabharata. I am going to repeat it here as I may made an error in the first post. (From p 11 of Self-Realization Mag, Fall 2000)
"One should forgive, under any injury. It hath been said that the continuation of the species is due to man's being forgiving. Forgiveness is holiness; by forgiveness the universe is held together. Forgiveness is the might of the mighty; forgivness is sacrifice; forgiveness is quiet of mind.
Forgiveness and gentleness are the qualities of the Self-possessed. They represent eternal virtue."
Dear All, Concening the kundalini, I have from a trustworthy good sourse that Sri Ramana Mararshi, one of the most signifcant spiritual teachers of India in the 20th Century, sometimes raised the kundalinli of a devotee by his looking deep into the devotees eyes. In other words, he was able to raise the kundalini by a significant darshan. It is certainly was NOT by the oiling of the genitals!!
Love, Dennis
Anthony 1400
08-06-2001 01:39 PM
Suresh
Sorry, I can't follow your post 1398 at all. It seems to contain a posting of sb chants and a statement that he is God. What is the purpose in posting all that?
It is wonderful that you have a website, but this board is not really the place to advertise a board on religions.
Hari
Come on Hari, please try harder to respond with tolerance. (1396) Let us all please stick to the subject at hand.
Balaraman Suresh 1399
08-06-2001 12:50 PM
An Outlook On Hinduism on my site.
http://www.geocities.com/sureshbalaraman/ten.html
Balaraman Suresh 1398
08-06-2001 12:05 PM
The Brainwashing of people thru this chant and Parti Baba's Stated Mission to the public at large is on 20 October 1940-Avataar's Day(which Hari Sampath cleverly exposed that it is another concocted story of Parti Baba),goes to prove that Parti Baba is not only lying but expects people to idolise him.
"SAAYEESHWARYA VIDHMAHE,
SATHYA DHEVAAYA DHEEMAHI,
THANNAHSSARVAH PRACHODAYAATH."
"I know through Gurus and Shastras (and by direct experience) that Sai is God himself : He is
Bhagavan and Ishwara. I mediate on this form in my heart with all my mental faculties. He is the
embodiment of truth, divinity, universal consciousness and one who pervades all the words. I
pray to such Saiparameshwar to direct our intellects to engage in auspicious and righteous activities. I meditate on this great form""
Balaraman Suresh 1397
08-06-2001 11:35 AM
Aabath Baandhawa Aanatha Rakshaga,Thanks Hari,may be i am not an orphan after all!
Hari Sampath 1396
08-06-2001 11:31 AM
To Uncle Sam :
>>Suresh, In America a Senator is the elected representative of the people 'in his district' who elected <<
A senator is NOT a an elected representative of a district.
He/she is elected by ALL voters of a State and as such represents the entire state.
You first learn about the political system here in "your country", the United States, and if you want a refresher course on this subject, as well as American history, I will be happy to teach you that (and then we can move to faraway things like India and its systems).
Do you at least know how the name "Uncle Sam" came to be used to denote the United States ( shame on you !!!)
By the way, United States foreign policy does include India as key strategic partner, because India is the world's largest democracy, which even in its infancy elected a woman leader ( US is yet to elect even an woman VP) .
The Congress and the Senate DO have jurisdiction is asking the FBI to investigate matters concerning ANY US citizen.
AND Sai Baba has molested sexually, several US citizens, which is why elected representatives can very well take up the matter with the FBI, especially when they have already received an official complaint from me, which has been accepted and sent to the Dept of Justice ( under which the FBI falls, which I am sure you don't know)
Hari Sampath
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