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Geroge at Sunrise 867
07-26-2001 10:28 AM
To Hari Sampath and Afshin: VERY classy site, guys. We are pleased that the site looks completely different than ours and that you've been able to post just about everything from Keenans's site. A real professional job! Thank you.
Your site will be linked on our main links page with a description of the contents. We are relieved that the material we didn't have is now available on your site.
Cock & Bull 866
07-26-2001 10:20 AM
Date:20 Oct 1990
Occasion:Golden Jubilee
Place:Prashanti Nilayam
Golden Jubilee of the Advent of The Avathar
[Swami sings]:
Know that verily I am Sai-
Renounce all attachment, cease all attempts; This external relationship with you is gone; Even the mightiest of the mighty cannot catch me."
These are the words uttered by me on that day, Monday the 20th October, 1940 Then the families of Tammiraju, Hanumantha Rao, Bhojaraju and others requested me not to leave the house. This happened at Urvakonda.
Ramaraju could not think of anything suitable to give me. So he rushed off to the goldsmith and had a gold "collar pin" made for me. With his own hands he put it on my collar and said, `Raju, whenever you see this collar pin, think of me.'"
A little later, all of us returned to Urvakonda by bus. The next day, as I was going to school, the collar pin fell off some place. Then I sang this song:
On Monday, the twentieth of October,
Back from Hampi, going to school
Baba lost his collar pin;
And a change came over me that day;
The collar pin was lost only to bring about that change.
Just like that collar pin, worldly bonds left me And `darshan' I had of Hampi;
'Maya' (delusion) left me and the time came for leaving the house.
The same day I left the house and went and sat on a large boulder in the compound of Anjaniah's house. He was an excise inspector. He used to experience an inexplicable and indescribable spiritual feeling for Swami.
His house was on the way to my school.
That day, the Twentieth of October, 1940, was a Monday. On that day, I did not go anywhere, not even to school. In those days, it was my duty to render the morning prayer in the school.
On that day, my absence caused a lot of consternation in the school.
Everyone was enquiring about Raju and asking why he was absent. No student attended prayer that day. Everyone came running to Anjaniah's house. I just sat there on the rock, without talking to anybody. Everyone was speculating on the cause of this strange occurrence. Perhaps there had been some change in the boy, perhaps he has suffered a mental aberration after his return from Hampi, or something had happened at home. Thus went on the guess work.
I suggested that they take my photograph if they wanted to know who I was.
Somebody did. In that photograph, just in front of me there was a picture of Shirdi Sai Baba. In those days, no one had heard of Shirdi Sai. One among the gathering was Uravakanda Anjaniah, who is today the District Chairman of Sri Sathya Sai Organizations. He also had that photo.
Meanwhile, believing that something had happened to me, Seshamaraju sent a telegram to Puttaparthi. Everyone came posthaste to Urvakonda from Puttaparthi. They did want me to stay there even for a day more. In those days there was no bus service to Puttaparthi, not even to Bukkapatnam. Buses ran only up to Penukonda. From Penukonda one had to travel by bullock cart.
Such were the conditions in those days
>From the day of my leaving the school, the two boys, as though demented, went on repeating my name, `Raju, Raju, Raju'. When they saw me stepping into the bus, their anguish was so great that one of them, the sheristadar's son, jumped into a well and drowned himself. The other boy gave up all food and drink and went on repeating my name, "Raju! Raju! Raju!" Lack of food and water weakened him so much that his body as if paralyzed. Such a state is the spiritual state of the highest order. But people believe that it is a kind of madness and is nothing but a total disregard of the external world of delusion. After the tragic incident of those two boys, the class room was locked up and later that desk was named `Sri Sathya Sai desk.'" The Headmaster of the school then was Lakshmipathi.That twentieth day of October was a day of total transformation.
Today, Andhra Pradesh is celebrating the Golden Jubilee of that day, the 20th October, 1940. These celebrations are a way of keeping the memory of that day fresh in the mind.
All this is not possible even in five hundred years. There have been great avathars in the past. But there were never such achievements in such a short span of fifty years. All these things have been done single-handedly. The whole world is in Prasanthi Nilayam. People from all corners of the world are coming here and Prasanthi Nilayam is now a mini-world.But as you know, bees come where there are flowers. They come because of honey. They do not go to plastic flowers.Argentina is a far off country. Today Bhajans are going on in every house in Argentina. In Miami, the military officers are participating in Bhajans. You might have read in the newspapers that six months ago those officers took a vow to replace the present government with the Sathya Sai government. The authorities thought that officers had gone mad and sent them to a mental asylum. The officers converted the doctors and the nurses and even the patients into devotees. Such transformations are not possible through mere words. They come about through a change of heart alone.
Morality alone is the true nationality. Love alone is the true religion. We must firmly believe in this:
Morality is the true foundation of a nation's honour.
Without morality, a nation disintegrates.
A real nation is that which is rooted in morality.
So, if you are asked, 'What is your nation?', your reply should be, `Morality is my nation.' If you are asked, `What is your religion?' your answer should be, `Love is my religion.' We should cultivate only such noble thoughts and thereby develop a deep devotion to God. Such devotion alone can save the world.
October 20th 1940 was NOT a Monday, it was a Sunday !!
http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar
Vedic Hindu Calendar http://www.panchangam.com You will find that October 20th was a Sunday and NOT a Monday, as Sai Baba repeatedly says in his speech above.
for the last 60 years the Sai Baba organization has been celebrating October
20th as the ôavatar dayö. Even in this speech on Oct 20th 1990, Sai Baba refers to ôMonday, October 20thö several times Just plain stupid of him, and possibly arrogant in the knowledge that no one will ever check all these things minutely. That is possibly true too, because, as followers , why should anyone ever doubt Sai BabaÆs words about factual accuracy.
Interestingly, Sai Baba says that he knows the ôpast , present and future of all peopleö .
In October 1990, he forgot the past of himself ??
In October 1940, he did not know the present date and ôavatar dayö of himself ??
And all these years, he certainly has not known the future , and that he will be exposed !!
Sai Baba says he announced : ôI am no longer your Sathya , I am leavingö .
The moment he decided to manufacture this lie, probably Sathya (Truth) really left him!!
Sai Baba always says that ômy life is my messageö.
That one of the first lie's is what he has been living all these years, that is our message.
Perhaps we should take it as ôMy LIE is my messageö.
In fact the credibilty of Raju has to be checked first.How can anybody come out from the crowd and take a picture of Raju and Raju to confirm that the photo had Shirdi Sai Baba in the front and him in the background??What,did Kodak have INSTANT PICS THEN?Was poloroid already in existence in 20 October 1940 that too in a place called URVAKONDA,remote part of ANDHRA PRADESH?That place even today is so neglected and down trodden,that its impossible to visualise that they have ultra photographic labs existing at that time??
Regarding reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba:
Raju self proclaims that he is the reincarnated Shirdi Sai Baba.Even today research is going on the studies of Paranormal and about reincarnation.Shirdi Sai Baba is an EXALTED SOUL.There is no reason for such a super human being to be born again.
None of the Hindu Purana's or Christian Gospel or Islamic Text or any other religious say conclusively that Raju is the MESSIAH.All the religious text have been cleverly quoted and misrepresented to suit Raju's supposed divinity.
Hairy Samputt you brainless twit,Hari is decent guy.What he does with his personal life regarding his sexual needs is his business.Before you ask for his credebility,who the HELL are you???Even your name is more in the lines to discredit Hari.First start to post in your own name,then i will thrash you soundly about silly old man RAJU.
Lucideye 863
07-26-2001 09:04 AM
yes now it is workin.
i guess i was a bit too fast. :-)
thanks,
lucideye
Hari Sampath 861
07-26-2001 08:18 AM
NEW WEBSITE :
http://www.sathyasaivictims.com is up and running
Thanks Afshin for all the wonderful work !!
Afshin and I are the administrators of the site, some more files need to be uploaded, but it is mostly completed.
Thank you,
Hari Sampath.
Hari Sampath 860
07-26-2001 07:54 AM
>>>I've just been told that Hari Sampath, NEVER worked in the Ashram in any capacity. This from someone who has been an there for many many years.<<
Sure.... and did that same person also assure you that Sai Baba is god almighty ?? I am sure you believed both his statements that I was never at the ashram, as well as Sai Baba is god.
Please tell me the name of the person, and I would be able to tell you everything about him. Perhaps he may be one of the sidekicks of the SB trust members too.
Hari Sampath
sarf 859
07-26-2001 07:26 AM
Hari claims:
>>In India, a country of 1 billion population, with over 80 % of the people are Hindu , and where Sai Baba is most expected to find acceptance, less than 10 million people even tolerate him.<<
And the salon.com expose which he is himself promoting proves him wrong.
Couple excerpts from the expose:
" Somewhere between 10 million and 50 million people worship Sai Baba as God incarnate, and they stream into Puttaparthi from six continents, " (do you know the difference between 'tolerating' and 'worshipping as God Incarnate', Hari).
"it's hard to convey the awesome power he has in India. In addition to the droves of foreigners who flock to see him, Sai Baba's acolytes include the cream of India's elite. Prime Minister A.B. Vajpayee is a devotee, as is former Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao. A 1993 article in the Times of India counts among the guru's followers "governors, chief ministers, assorted politicians, business tycoons, newspaper magnates, jurists, sportsmen, academics and, yes, even scientists."
So Hari, should we believe you, or should we believe salon.com?
Hari Sampath 857
07-26-2001 02:26 AM
Anthony :
I was trying my level best to stick to the topic under discussion: Sai Baba.
I have not indulged in any irrelevant personal attacks, nor have I replied in any great detail to personal attacks.
I normally do not post much on any board, but today, i just thought I will focus the board on specific Sai Baba related topics and how SB is an evil person.
All I have dealt with are just facts and analysis of SB, his pedophilia, his "miracles" etc, and I was also forced to post certain details about my personal interactions with SB as well as my tenure in the ashram.
The Pro SB people are the ones who indulge in low down personal attacks, as can be seen by everyone.
I leave it your decision as a moderator as to what posts fall under the topic "Sai Baba -anti Christ ?" and decide for yourself. Anything is fine by me.
If other readers got irritated or bored, I am sorry. I only wanted to show the SB devotees that it is easy to stick to the topic, as well as attack their views with facts and relevant information.
Thanks,
Hari Sampath.
Anthony 856
07-26-2001 02:04 AM
Edited by author 07-26-2001 02:06 AM
Suggestion
The last few pages of posts are full of accusations by Hairy and replies to those from Hari.
Hari, genuine question. Do you feel it is helping the cause for a) you to answer these accusations? b) for me to leave these posts up?
See if you feel if helps a doubting devotee who is reading the posts.
Re: Deletions 855
07-26-2001 01:20 AM
A reminder that personal attacks and slander will not be tolerated on this board.
George at Sunrise 852
07-26-2001 01:00 AM
Michelle Goldberg's excellent article is now linked on the Sunrise CURRENT NEWS page. Later on it will be permanently posted on the MEDIA page.
Michele's lead statement is:
"Millions of people worship Sai Baba as God incarnate. MORE AND MORE SAY THE INDIAN GURU IS ALSO A PEDOPHILE."
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise
A Sparrow 851
07-26-201 12:51 AM
sarf ... my, but you're selective in the quotes you choose to excerpt! The thing is ... anybody who's ever known anything about raju knows that stuff already. It's been trumpeted loudly for years. It's time the darker aspects of his nature were brought into the light of day, and I think Michelle did quite a good job of doing that.
Hari Sampath 845
07-26-2001 12:21 AM
To Hairy Samputt :
>>Do you mastubrate or go to prostititutes or living with your girl friend or are you homosexual or hetero sexual to fulfill your sexual needs or celibate sanyasi??????????<<
I guess you will understand when I say this is not worthy of a reply, but it does serve to highlight the "transformation" your guru has affected in you.
Perhaps this is the transformation he is planning for the whole world. I hope not.
>>What made you turn against Sathya Sai Baba??<<
The discovery that he was a fraud and a child molestor.
>>Its one thing when i say i know Vajpayee,Advani,George Bush,Putin but do these illustrious gentlemen know me??<<
Of the four gentlemen you have mentioned here, I know one of them personally very well. When I talk to him by phone this Friday, I shall ask him if he knows you..... but then I myself do not know your name, so if you can provide me with your details, I shall try to get you the answer to your question .
>>Do you believe in god?If so which is your Ishta Devatha??<,
Sarva lokaadhaaram aham
Sarva Karma Kaaranam
Sarva hridhaya vaasinam aham
Sathyaavataaram Sri Hari Sambhavam :-)
In hope you know some Sanskrit and enough Philosophy to figure out this one :-)
Hari Sampath.
Hari Sampath 843
07-26-2001 12:05 AM
To Hairy Samputt :
>>Then what gives you the right to cast aspersion on Sathya Sai Baba? who is to multitudes of people a symbol of love and peace.You have cheek to admit that you personally have never ever had a personal interview and yet you speak and write despicable things about Sathya Sai Baba.<<
I have never met Adolf Hitler in person, and obviously Hitler hasn't yet killed me (at least these things are obvious to you , I hope), so does that mean I cannot have an opinion on the genocide of jews ? By the same token, several people have been molested by Sai Baba, AND are writing and talking about that.
I guess the fact that I cannot condone sexual abuse of minors, gives me the right to expse these activities of Sai Baba, as does everyone who opposes deceit and evil.
>>what actually is your grouse against him?And what makes you think and speak in this manner??<<
Only one grouse : SB is a dishonest trickster. Actually, in the time I interacted with him, he was pretty nice to me on a personal level, but I am afraid I cannot hold on to that and condone his generally despicable activities.
>>You say that you are not married?Let me guess again,probably you are in your mid twenties or late thirties.Now if your are not married then how do you deal with your sexual needs??<<
Oh-Oh..... you NEVER guess right !! not mid twenties or late thirties, but early thirties, I could say...... again, your delightfully vague guesses remind me strongly of your guru's own predictions :-) My sexual needs and how I deal with them are not the topic of this board, I would imagine that Sai Baba's sexual needs and how he has been dealing with them would be more appropriate to discuss.
>>Now you say you work 50/hrs a week,and then still how do you find time to carry on with all nefarious activities against Sathya Sai Babaa??Does your employer know that you are wasting your time indulging in these kind of nonsense activities when actually you ought to be concentrating on your work??<<
I told you I work a 50 hour week, and also that I sleep only by 2 AM. I manage to do very well at work, and my employer has actually thought it fit to recently give me additional responsibilities.
Yes, my employer is aware that I do squeeze in some SB expose work during my work day, and in fact was nice enough to give me half a day off with pay, when I went to meet with the FBI after they called me to assist their investigation. Of course I was conscientious enough to come back to work in the evening and complete what I had to do for that day. Anyway, thanks for your kind concern :-)
Hari Sampath.
Hairy Samputt 842
07-25-2001 11:58 PM
The Bible does not say whether Jesus Christ was married,whether he had any children???So are we to assume that Jesus Christ has never ever had sexual relationship with any one???WAS he a celibate sanyasi??
Many people criticised Jesus Christ when he uttered that he was son of god...that he and his father were one and the same....today reality is Jesus Christ is worshipped by majority of human beings in the world.
Mohammad prophet married 11 times and one of his wife was 9 years old Aisha.Now are we to call Mohamad horny or what?Islam is the second largest religion in the world followed by human beings.
Lord Krishna,Sathya bhama and Rukmini,Lord Shanmugha -Valli and Devyannai;Lord Balaji;etc all these Hindu Gods were married had children,and there are epic stories ,awe inspiring to lead a peaceful and harmonious existence.
If Sathya Sai Baba does not talk about his sexual needs and affairs,that does not mean he is out molesting little boys.
Hairy Samputt 841
07-25-2001 11:47 PM
Hari Sampath,Which Samithi were you a member?Under whose leadership you were acting?Which groups you joined for discussion with Sathya Sai Baba?Where were you living in Prashanthi Nilayam??Are your parents aware that your are indulging in this kind of character assasination of Sathya Sai Baba??Do you mastubrate or go to prostititutes or living with your girl friend or are you homosexual or hetero sexual to fulfill your sexual needs or celibate sanyasi??????????
What made you turn against Sathya Sai Baba??Its one thing when i say i know Vajpayee,Advani,George Bush,Putin but do these illustrious gentlemen know me??There is one thing obvious about you,-you have double standards in your life.Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others.What does your father say to all this character assasination that you have embarked upon Sathya Sai Baba??Do you respect your parents,teachers.Do you believe in god?If so which is your Ishta Devatha??
Hairy Samputt 840
07-25-2001 11:35 PM
>>>No, Sai Baba has never misbehaved with me in a physical sense, and I had never been given a one to one interview. Obviously, I knew him well, and had spoken to him several times, as he too knew well I was in the ashram intelligence and security wing, met him several times with groups etc<<<
Then what gives you the right to cast aspersion on Sathya Sai Baba? who is to multitudes of people a symbol of love and peace.You have cheek to admit that you personally have never ever had a personal interview and yet you speak and write despicable things about Sathya Sai Baba.Now what do i make of you?Its one thing to say that "Obviously,i knew him well...." What is so obvious ???but does Sathya Sai Baba know who you are? what you are?where your from?what actually is your grouse against him?And what makes you think and speak in this manner??
You say that you are not married?Let me guess again,probably you are in your mid twenties or late thirties.Now if your are not married then how do you deal with your sexual needs??
Now you say you work 50/hrs a week,and then still how do you find time to carry on with all nefarious activities against Sathya Sai Babaa??Does your employer know that you are wasting your time indulging in these kind of nonsense activities when actually you ought to be concentrating on your work??
Hari Sampath 839
07-25-2001 11:34 PM
Sorry, Sarf.. last message was meant for lurk22, but you could use it as well :-)
Hari Sampath 838
07-25-2001 11:33 PM
To Sarf :
>>Hari Sampath, is a lier. There are only 3 cars not "6". There are no "watchtowers" and never have been. No "night vision binoculars". <<
Last I knew SB had a Daimler, two Mercedes, two BMWs and a Jaguar ......
please add it up.
The watch towers were in three places.
1.Over South Prashanthi.
2. Over the Water tank in the Chitravathi road.
3. Over the Administrative building of the University , on the hill.
Night vision binoculars means they will be used in the night, and the user can see everything else at night, but the binoculars themselves cannot be seen by anyone looking up :-)
Probably explains why you couldn't see it or us , maybe we were that good, thanks :-)
Hari Sampath
Hari Sampath 837
07-25-2001 11:26 PM
To Sarf :
Yes, I still repeat and insist that Sai Baba is a "complete nonentity in the world scheme of things".
A few million people knowing him by name doesn't make him significant.
Even in the UN conference of world religious and spiritual leaders held in New York, in 2000, although 1500 delegates were invited from India alone, Sai Baba was NOT invited.
In India, a country of 1 billion population, with over 80 % of the people are Hindu , and where Sai Baba is most expected to find acceptance, less than 10 million people even tolerate him. And that too , after 75 years of his life, when "2/3 of the world should be folowing him".
Applying Sai Baba's own words and self publicised prophecies, and by those standards , he is a "complete non entity".
If you compare him to an unknown ordinary citizen, then of course , SB is very influential politically, very wealthy, and well known. By these standards he is not a non entity, but you would note in my original message , I had clearly said "in the world scheme of things"
You ask me in which court was Sai Baba proved to be a fraud . Well, in which court did he prove he was god ?? You tell me that, and I will tell you my answer.
Although I had never been in an one on one interview with SB, is that a necessary qualification for saying he cheats ? Certainly not. I had SEEN Sai Baba cheat, I have examined so many video tapes, talked to so many people who have seen him cheat, and hence I formed mu opinion about him.
Hari Sampath.
lurk22 836
07-25-2001 11:18 PM
Hari Sampath, is a lier. There are only 3 cars not "6". There are no "watchtowers" and never have been. No "night vision binoculars". No commando training. The ceiling of the mandir is not "SOLID GOLD", it's merely gilted with "gold leaf", a project commissioned by a wealthy donor.
You dare to fly in the face of Shiva and expect that your life will improve?
It will just get harder and harder, and then the inevitable massive heart attack. How silly and foolish you are. Hari Sampath, the voice of impotance on the www. 6 billion people on earth now only a few hundred may ever now YOUR silly name. Get a life loser!
sarf 835
07-25-2001 11:13 PM
Hari Sampath, who has a personal relationship with the 'True God' says:
"SB is a proven fraud"
That 'proves' you a liar doesn't it? In which court did you 'prove' him a fraud?
"he is a complete non entity in the world scheme of things."
Just imagine, all these exposes on a nobody!
"he is hardly known by name to a few millions,"
Hmmm, a 'complete non-entity' known by millions. I see rational thinking is not your forte, is it Hari?
"I had never been given a one to one interview"
Yet you pose as an expert on his 'cheating'. Why?
"You choose to classify all the allegations as motivated and false, but I choose to believe them."
Exactly. And since you have been shown to be irrational, your judgement is suspect. The great majority dismiss the allegations. The quality people are still with him.
Actually Hari, you, Glen Meloy et al are doing yeoman service on behalf of SB. Thanks to all these 'exposes' millions more are becoming aware of him and many of them will definitely end up as devotees. You can take that to the bank.
Hari Sampath 834
07-25-2001 10:49 PM
To Hairy Samputt :
>>The Audio Tape is available in Prashanthi Nilayam and those who are intersted can buy it and listen to it and come to the conclusion.Hari Sampath is lying............<<
Tell me, how many speeches of Sai Baba have you heard to say he has never said this Oct 20th 1940 ? I have given you official transcripts of his speech, and he has said this in several speeches. Please clarify which speech you are talking about.
In the speech he made on October 1st 2000, he does not refer to the date.
But in the speech made in May 2000 as well as the October 1990 "golden jubilee speech", he clearly refers to the date as October 20th 1940.
Well, in any case, it is not as if "others" are celebrating avatar day, he himself has been watching for 50 years, right ?? and he has kept quiet, in addition to referring to it himself several times.
The facts of the matter are simple enough : NOTHING of that sort ever happened, there was no avatar day nothing... it was all a concoted story later.... one that went wrong because of a tiny slip. That's all. The lie has come out.
Hari Sampath.
Hari Sampath 833
07-25-2001 10:41 PM
To Hairy Samputt :
>>May i ask a question,have you been granted any personal interview wherein Sathya Sai Baba has asked you take your pants off and mis behaved with you??I doubt it?All these people who are talking are just jealous,or have not got what they wanted,or under the influence of some religious sect paid to say these things or just plain assholes.<<
No, Sai Baba has never misbehaved with me in a physical sense, and I had never been given a one to one interview. Obviously, I knew him well, and had spoken to him several times, as he too knew well I was in the ashram intelligence and security wing, met him several times with groups etc
You choose to classify all the allegations as motivated and false, but I choose to believe them.
You first communicate to such victims and then make your determination whether or not these peole are believable or not.
There is no particular religious sect "sponsoring" the crusade against Sai Baba, probably because nobody think he is worth spending money on, or he is a big enough influence to be a threat to their sect.
Hari Sampath
Hairy Samputt 832
07-25-2001 10:31 PM
The Audio Tape is available in Prashanthi Nilayam and those who are intersted can buy it and listen to it and come to the conclusion.Hari Sampath is lying............
Hari Sampath 831
07-25-2001 10:30 PM
To Hairy Samputt :
>>>Who is Hari Sampath,after all??Some Brahmin Vaishnava guy,probably married with children and has a whole lot of money to throw around and has enormous amount of time to carry on with this nefarious activities.I guess he might be owning his own business.And i could be totally wrong too!!<<
Brahmin Vaishnava guy : YES
Married with Children : NO
Has a lot of money to throw around : No , How I wish ...
Lots of time : NO,
I work a 50 hour week, and sleep at 2 AM everyday.... of course I spend every minute I can in exposing the nefarious activities of Sai Baba.
I guess he might be owning his own business : NO
And i could be totally wrong too : Well, almost, but not totally wrong , because you got one out of 5 right :-)
Hari Sampath
Hari Sampath 830
07-25-2001 10:24 PM
Excerpts from Sai Baba's speeches :
****************
Date:20 Oct 1990
Occasion:Golden Jubilee
Place:Prashanti Nilayam
Today, Andhra Pradesh is celebrating the Golden Jubilee of that day, the 20th October, 1940. These celebrations are a way of keeping the memory of that day fresh in the mind.
********************************
In just this one single speech, Sai Baba clearly refers to the "avatar day" as October 20th 1940, at least 4 times !!!
I have listened to this speech as well as so many other speeches, where he clearly had mentioned the day as well as the date as October 20th.
Hari Sampath
Hairy Samputt 829
07-25-2001 10:24 PM
Who is Hari Sampath,after all??Some Brahmin Vaishnava guy,probably married with children and has a whole lot of money to throw around and has enormous amount of time to carry on with this nefarious activities.I guess he might be owning his own business.And i could be totally wrong too!!
Confrontation should be amongst equals.There should be a sense of fairplay.If at all pitted you guys should find someone of equal stature like the POPE or Yogic Gurus or MULLAHS LIKE AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI to make it awe inspiring bout.Many of the controversies pertaining to all the subjects in scrutiny , Sathya Sai Baba has categorically told in his discourse on Guru Poornima Day,touching almost all the subjects of controversy neatly defending himself and the students.What more do you all want??Did Sathya Sai Baba forcibly make you come to Prashanthi Nilayam??Did Sathya Sai Baba forcibly ask you all to donate money to his different trusts???Did Sathya Sai Baba forcibly make Kumkuma,Vibhuthi,Honey,pour out from Pictures of gods???Did Sathya Sai Baba forcibly do Kundalini Shakthi initiation???NO NO NO NEVER.The love that Sathya Sai Baba has for humanity is seen by his actions,creations,transformation of individuals,the pure state of bliss one acheives,.
You all talk about his materialisation.Many times Sathya Sai Baba has albeitly admitted that these materialisation can be done by any Tom,Dick,and Hari.So whats the great hullballooo about it?P.C.Sorcar also does these neat acts.Why don't you all go and follow him??If materialisation of rings,talisman,etc are what attracted you all in the first place??P.C.Sirkar's father was such a great magician that he MASS MESMERISED AN ENTIRE AUDIENCE,so should all Kollkattan's start to worship him????
Hairy Samputt 828
07-25-2001 09:44 PM
Edited by author 07-25-2001 09:54 PM
Hari Sampath Minus Sathya Sai Baba Equals To Zero
I listened to audio tape of Sathya Sai Baba regarding your question.Sathya Sai Baba says "SOMA VARAM' thats all which means "MONDAY".He does not go into details of the date at all.Now why Sathya Sai Organisation is celebrating October 20 1940 as Avatar's Day,you need to ask the authorities there.But as far as Sathya Sai Baba's discourse is concerned he mentions only the day in the audio recording.Now if you are so interested please buy it from the book shop in Prashanthi Nilayam,i doubt you would have the guts to go there after your disgustful,tirade against Sathya Sai Baba.May i ask a question,have you been granted any personal interview wherein Sathya Sai Baba has asked you take your pants off and mis behaved with you??I doubt it?All these people who are talking are just jealous,or have not got what they wanted,or under the influence of some religious sect paid to say these things or just plain assholes.
If at all anybody should be called Anti-Christ,its nations like Germany,United States Of America,United Kingdom-who have perpetuated heinous crimes against humanity and now are talking of peace and non-violence.Germany-The multitudes of Jews that that country killed is History.United Kingdom-In the name of Queen how many countries they held in dominion.Even India before they left,partioned it as Pakistan & India.United States Of America-The entire race of American Indians were wiped out with their tradtions and cultures.
Compare this with India-A nation which constantly has been attacked by various people from time to time.Islam is an alien religion in India.Christanity is an alien religion in India.Yet Indians allowed or were attacked and forcibly converted to Islam and Christanity.
Sathya Sai Baba teaches Sathya Dharma Prema Shanthi Ahimsa.To call such a great birth "Paedophile","Liar" is as good as insulting and insinuating your own Mother and Father.
Magazines,Newspaper's etc publish because news is juice and more money for them.But Truth will win.Sathya Sai Baba will win and Triumph over all evil .That is his destiny.
Hari Sampath 827
07-25-2001 09:41 PM
To Sarf :
You say >>Talk is cheap my friends. You all can talk the talk. But no one has walked the walk that Sai Baba has. Not for a long, long time<<
That exacly is what we are saying too.
Sai Baba has been "talking" about the golden age and so forth for 60 years.
Even after his 75th year, when two thirds of the world should have been his followers, all he has to show is , even his own backyard is 100 times worse than it was 60 years back.
Of a world population of 6 billion, he is hardly known by name to a few millions, and most of those who know his name, know him as a pedophile guru.
In fact, even for these few millions of people knowing him , he doesn't matter a great deal. In short he is a complete non entity in the world scheme of things.
He had been saying things like "my students will rule the world in 10 years" , and "the golden age is close at hand" etc for decades now. He has done NOTHING at all even remotely on the scale promised by him.
Even the 2 hospitals and two colleges he has built have taken him 60 years to do so, and he says "no avatar has accomplished so much in just 50 years" !!!
To put it simply, he has simply been talking everyday, walking to and fro 2 times everyday, in between molesting young boys, and cheating wealthy people of their wealth.
So he hasn't walked his talk, but only walked and talked.
Hari Sampath