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Original Obsession

Updated 12-29-02

Logan and a TV gun image

Of all the things fans love about Logan's Run the most popular has to be the hardware and costumes used by the inhabitants of the 23rd century. This new page will explore the love and obsession fans have had as a result of Logan's Run. As a child often on the playground my friends and I would play Sandman and Runner. I often had to be the Runner. I recall as a youngster in grade school wishing I had a DS Gun of my very own. In fact during the final days of the series I built my own gun with some PVC pipe, a drill press and some wood. Needless to day it was not a very realistic looking gun. Shown above is me in my Sandman tunic holding my first flamegun. This was in late 1977. We had a building in our home town with big colums. We also had an amphitheaer about the right size for carousel at our school. When I went to the Fantasy Symposium (A wonderful logan filled convention February 15-18, 1979) which had George Clayton Johnson as a guest as well as having a display of all of the matte paintings from the movie)


My first home made gun and costume
Circa 1977

I took my gun along with me. There my dream turned into an instant obsession as I met Bill Blake. Bill was rather ammused by my home made gun. I guess 1 inch PVC pipe was not exacticly to scale ; ) Bill had formed a company (the 23rd Century Emporium (see the fandom page for more info on Bill Blake and lower on this page for pictures of one of his guns)) and was selling the most beautiful flameguns I have ever seen at his dealers table. They were mostly machined aluminum with some cast resin parts, but they were crafted with such loving care that till this very day I still long after one. (I finally managed to buy one in 2002! ) Bill also was selling deathmasks and other props. He also brought along his working flamegun from the movie and was using up lots of carbide. It was really impressive. I think the sound was fascinating. I always thought it was mostly a sound effect they added in. I did not realize that it actually made that strange sound.


Shortly thereafter Starlog press issed a book called SF Weapons. It was a fascinating photo guidebook (one of the las tof the Starlog photoguidebooks published) and it had a fantastic blueprint of a Flamegun! I was so excited I got to work right away at creating a new and improved flamegun. This time I had PVC pipe wiich was much smaller! and I got the hole size just about right. I used wood moulding and shaved off the other side to round it and make a near perfect handle and I cut a piece of aluminum to make the belt attachment. It looked really well made. I used it in several of the science ficiton films I made from the late 70's until the early 80's when I fashoned one out of machined aluminum. Shane Johnson (author of Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise) also did a set of blueprints in a book. Often you see these reprinted in poster size for some reason and on sale on e-bay?

Starlog fictional blueprint image

A picture of greg with a Flamegin form the pilot image

Groso gorgon threatened with a flamegun image

Shown to the left is my first gun being used by Tom Aceves as he points it at his commanding officer's head in the amateur film Life at Last (1980). The gun featured a battery compartment in the back and a trigger which would ignite a bit of flash paper stuck in the barrel. It could also be loaded with AG-1B flashbulbs for indoor effects when we were worried about igniting something flamable. It was also used in A Place In Space also made in 1980.

Over the years I collected quite a few different Logan guns. Most based on the movie. Some were based on the TV series. These were urathane foam or resin props. I think i have about five of these still in my collection. Most are base on the movie. One is a TV variation.

I recently found the third wooden gun I made in a box. Along with it was my first attempt at making a TV follower. I have no idea what happened to my first and second ones. Probably broken or destroyed in the early 80's. The second one was very close to the movie design. It was on display at Fantasticon 3 along with a variety of other props from our latest movie of the day. To the right you can see the third gun. The handle was enlarged quite a bit to accomidate the thick gloves worn by many of the characters using the gun. It also had a huge pushbutton for the same reason. Like the second one it was made out of wood but the pistol grip was not as good. the follower was made out of a 2x4. I guess at some point I lost the back section of the gun that is why it looks very short. It was not in the box. Over the years the electronics were removied. I probably transfered the switch to the newer metal gun.

Wooden flamegun and follower image

The first gun lost the front section during the filming of one movie. I guess I packed the powder for the charge a bit too tightly. I still have the aluminum one though. It is shown below. The extra large handle was designed so that it could be held with the thick gloves of a costume. It was wired for flash paper. I think it was last used in Groso Gorgon: The Final Chapter in 1985. Though it probably also made an apearance in The Zombie Legions 1987 as we used almost every prop we could find.

Solid metal flamegun with big handle image

Tim Smith and Richard Hallock image

Tim Smith (long time Logan fan) questions me about my age in 86. he is holding one of my urathane guns.

Strange flamgun diagram link

Chris Wiedner (a big time logan fan in the 80's) sent me these two drawings of this Logan blaster. I have combined them into one picture along with a xerox of the same gun being held. I think the picture on the right may be the same picture as the one Chris sent me. This blaster is the TV version. The glow plug switch was modified to be on the back of the gun so that it would only be activated when the gun was held very tightly. Instead of a toggle switch it was a push-button with a spring.

Strange gun photograph link
Courtsey of Robert Yancey


Donated by Eric Popejoy

NEW 7-5-02 I got all excited whne I first saw these blueprints, but then I noticed the date was too late and that it must be a fan version. Still the detail is very nice, if a bit faint. Of special interest is the TV version of the follower shown to the right. The gun blueprint is nice as it shows the holster as well as the gun.


Donated by Eric Popejoy

large blueprint image link

I was sent this copy several years ago, but never put it up out of respect for Bill Blake. Although this diagram is avaliable on www.logansrun.com I thought a larger version might be more revaling. Bill Blake obviously made this as a true labor of love. Building a working flamegun can be a dangerous process. If you decide to buuild one it would be a good idea to contact people who have done so before in the Logan comminuty. Both sets of plans are a bit vague. These props use a combustable gas under high pressure and can be very dangerous! If you build one, you do so at your own peril, and the creator of this site, as well as the person who created these blueprints, will not be held responsible for any accidents from using the above plans. If you fail in your mission the secretary will dissavow all knowledge of IMF involvement bla bla bla.This was scanned in at 100dpi (then converted to 72dpi for web viewing) if you download it and convert it back to 100 dpi you should have it at the original size (an 11x17 sized peice of paper). The pictue itself details the inner workings of a motion picture flamegun. Bill Blake owns one of the original working guns from the motion picture and took it apart.

Aside from Bill's fantastic repros the next best props were made by Richard Coyle. Info on his hyperdetailed props can be found on his weaponry web site. His site includes many pictures of him reverse engineering a original DS gun as well as including a great blueprint of how the working flamegun works. His blueprint makes a great companion to the diagram above!

I recently discvered a page I had created and uploaded years ago, but forgot to make a link to it. This is a brief page about the History of the DS Gun.

Anyhow as this page gets started I hope to showcase both original props costumes form the film as well as the home grown variety. If you have created a costume and wore it for halloween or to a convention and have some pictures to document it please send them to me. the address is virtviki@pacbell.net e-mail attachments of .jpg are welcome!

Wardrobe

This section shows off costumes form the movie and TV series.


Rem's 'revealing' costume form Stargate!
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Reelclothes


Courtsey of
Reelclothes


Courtsey of
Reelclothes


Courtsey of
Reelclothes


Sandman under tunic


Courtsey of
Reelclothes


Courtsey of
Reelclothes


Make your own death mask hood


Make your own death mask hood


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Please
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New 8-18-01


The masters will be pleased!


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection
New 8-18-01


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection
New 8-18-01


The Robert C. Yacncy Collection


Rem post pilot costume design
I like the metalic bits!

The Robert C. Yacncy Collection

The Robert C. Yacncy Collection

The Robert C. Yacncy Collection

Hardware

This section deals with props from both the movie and TV series.


Courtsey of Robert Yancey


Courtsey of Robert Yancey

96 x 77


From the British Annual


Original Maze Car!
Courtsey of Robert Yancey

Bill Blake Mazecar Blueprint

New 8-18-01

Huge file!

TV modifird gun New 10-21-01

New 8-18-01

I recently discvered a page I had created and uploaded years ago, but forgot to make a link to it. This is a brief page about the History of the DS Gun.

Fan Produced Weapons

This section illustrates the various fan produced replicas and garage kits made over the years and their differences.

The inspiration for the flamegun aparently came form this electronic lighter made in the late 60's I have one and though it looked very much like the one described in the original novel. They also came with a wooden base.

The gun shown to the right (circa 2001) had writing on it for some reason. Other than that a very nice repro minus the glow plug switch.

Bill Blake's created the most amazing replicas. based on an original motion picture working weapon he used machined aluminum which he had black anodized as wel as some resin grips to create the most beautiful props I have ever seen! (Circa 1978-79) The grips on this pictured gun were made of Bondo.

Resin and urathane model Movie (circa mid 80's)

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Resin and urathane model TV (circa mid 80's)

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Richard Coyle's remarkable replicas (circa late 1990's) featured incredibley detailed work based on an original motion picture flamegun. The attention to detail shows!

More soon!

A unique gus in that it had a crystal imprint on the grip to detect the sandman's life crystal! Cool modification!

Still looking for the pics!

This kit ( circa 2001) was a solid resin kit. I have seen it sold painted flat black like this one, in white, and even in gloss black. It's most unusual feature was the complete lack of the vents in the front of the gun. Also the deletion of the long indentations on the side of the barrell.

Of all the fan kits the most unique has to have been this one. (circa 2001) Be warned the picture is huge, and there is only 1 picture. This gun came with a base and a plate describing the six shots it fired. Strange triangular belt clip. I love the skull and crossbones on the back of the gun where there has been added this knob to select the different shots! Way cool!

Another Resin prop circa 2001. Interesting trangular belt cip on this.

Simon Lewis in England made his replica from scrap materials (MDF wood, plexiglass & electrical tubing) for the cost of about £10.00
Circa May 2002

These fantastic 3-D rendered props were created by Gordon Carew who visualized not only the traditional gun, but the revolver of the novels!
Circa December 2002

 

I just love this version of the
revolver from the novels!

What a great fusion of the two guns!

All Dressed Up

This section features fans at conventions wearing costumes. "Sometimes the 'Logies' go on a 'run.'" Space 1980 was a convention held in Redding. CA at the convention center there. A huge open building with balconeis and staircases and the like. Somplace I have movie footage of these jokers ; )


Tim Smith at the Atlanta Worldcon


Confederation in Atlanta 1986

Atlanta Worldcon 1986


A 'run' at Space 1980


A 'run' at Space 1980


A 'run' at Space 1980


A 'run' at Space 1980


Josh Lane, costume made by
Ellen Sanford (circa 2001)


Daniel 9 in action! (circa 2002)


Aren't you a bit short
for a Sandman? : )


Susan Dastrup Aug 13, 1976


Warren Grimes from the UK


Oh no! Cybermen in
the City of Domes!

Hi all, Sandman Dan here

Here is a picture of my sandman uniform I had made from a professional seamstress in Louisiana and she is availiable to take orders from anyone interested.

She made mine to be the tv version one-piece with hidden zipper in seam and movie version belt.

Her name is DONNA TURBYNE and her e-mail is:

turbyne1@cox.net

Also here is a realplayer movie of me at COASTCON XXV in the costume contest in uniform with my functional tracker and flame gun.

DANIEL DAY
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